Will David "The Matrix" Haye save the HW divison

[smoochp]

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[acb_]

He is intriguing. But if he gets KO´d its would be back to square one. His talking and hyping himself, along with his skill level, is the most interesting thing in the division right now.

Thats unfair to Vlad maybe, but an honest opinion none the less.

[smoochp]

I agree with both of yall. I just think a fight with Toney or Golota is the best move for him right now

[Brooklyn1550]

Haye will not be a dominant champion, but he'll give the fans intriguing fights with a high level of skill, speed, and power rarely seen in today's unconditioned heavyweights. Expect to see a murderous puncher who either takes his opponent out or gets taken out. I, for one, can't wait to see his next fight.

Besides Klitschko, fights with Povetkin, Peter, and Valuev would be great.

[cardstars]

To be honest im not sure what to think of Haye as a heavyweight yet. Exciting? Of course he is! But im unsure as to how good he will be, and if he can back up that mouth of his.

I hope his chin holds up heavy....im not sure if its quite as bad as people make it out to be though, because his "TKO" loss to Thompson was a corner stoppage....not him laying out on the canvas unconscious like a lot of people make it out to be.

As of right now I would surely call him the savior of the heavyweight division, but only for "hopes" until he proves himself. I know he REALLY wants to dethrone Wlad, but unfortunately I think Povetkin might do it first

[cardstars]

I voted yes....cause I think he will surely create interest in the division and have some great fights

[Benny Blanco]

To be honest im not sure what to think of Haye as a heavyweight yet. Exciting? Of course he is! But im unsure as to how good he will be, and if he can back up that mouth of his.

I hope his chin holds up heavy....im not sure if its quite as bad as people make it out to be though, because his "TKO" loss to Thompson was a corner stoppage....not him laying out on the canvas unconscious like a lot of people make it out to be.

As of right now I would surely call him the savior of the heavyweight division, but only for "hopes" until he proves himself. I know he REALLY wants to dethrone Wlad, but unfortunately I think Povetkin might do it firstYeah that Carl Thompson fight was a case of bad stanima on Haye part which is something he has had since his amatuer days just check his AM fight with Odlanier Solis on youtube.

[dan-b]

I'm going to refrain from voting because I think "save" is a bit dramatic, however, I certainly think he'll bring a much needed intrigue & excitement that the division has lacked recently.

The main question mark over his ability to reign supreme surrounds his chin, however, the current main man of the division has chin issues of his own that we have seen exploited on numerous occasions. Haye has power & speed and, although we can't be certain yet, I'm pretty sure his power will carry through to heavyweight.

[warrior85]

i cant say until hes fought a top hw,possibly tho.

[boxer71]

I'm gonna say yes, i'm pretty sure haye will mantain the power needed as he has awsome punching power,and something the current crop of heavyweights lack, speed.I think the only thing that could be his undoing is his chin,although having said that i'ts still open to debate wheather he has a glass jaw or not.Will be interesting to see how he takes his first big shot on the chin.:scratchchin:

[Jay]

could it not be argued that he already has?

imagine a world without david haye, and then look at both the heavyweight, and cruiserweight divisions - nothing there at all, no one would watch wlad other than to see him lose because he is that terrified of being hit and losing his title - thompson barely hit him, and not hard at that, yet wlad froze like a dear in headlights and seemed to really not take them well at all. and thompson is VERY limited.

now haye has everyone talking, everyone wants to watch the heavyweight division because everyone wants to see what will happen when a guy who hits like an asteroid, is faster than most, actually keeps in shape, and is not afraid of anyone - in his 21/22 fights he has fought some damned good names, and up until the thomson loss - was fighting some VERY impressive guys by 10/11 fights, and that was just on his talent/power alone, it wasn't until his loss that he realized he needed to take this seriously to get anywhere, and look at the results, koing the undisputed cruiserweight champion in the champs back yard only 9-10 fights later. and becoming one of the biggest stars virtually in the division with only one "test" fight.

so has he saved the HW division - yes.

Will he go on to reestablish the division - let's all hope so, because this is a guy that means one thing - action, he's not going to play safety first, he's there to either kill or be killed, and the best man may win - it's a great attitude, and hopefully will pay dividends for him.

[Maximus Molyneux]

No, he prefers shit talking and bulking up over finding proper opponents and protecting that shaky chin.

He could beat the likes of Peter because Peter Is a weak champ but the decent ones with a punch will lay him out.

[Jay]

peter is apparently the hardest hitting heavy...

who is this "decent one with a punch".....

[boxer71]

peter is apparently the hardest hitting heavy...

who is this "decent one with a punch".....
lol i was wanting to know that as well mate!:scratchchin:

[Jay]

it's a bunch of hypocrisy - he's expected to fight the best
yet - the number 2 ranked fighter is a bum, and if he fights the best first fight - he's criticised for not fighting other fighters, yet no one is good enough, that doesn't have some criteria or factor that makes another opponent not worthy

[cardstars]

it's a bunch of hypocrisy - he's expected to fight the best
yet - the number 2 ranked fighter is a bum, and if he fights the best first fight - he's criticised for not fighting other fighters, yet no one is good enough, that doesn't have some criteria or factor that makes another opponent not worthy

Its because of the whole division being weak. Its the same with one of my favs, Povetkin. No matter who he fights he gets shit for it

[Igor]

I've been watching some Haye fights and wow, if his chin doesn't improve at HW, he's screwed. His chin is terrible and although he has good reflexes and speed, his defense is very leaky. I hope his chin improves because the HW division needs someone like him.

It looks like he's gonna fight Barrett in November. I was hoping he would choose Chambers because that would be a real test (I would even favor Chambers to beat him), but this isn't too bad.. Barrett will come in highly motivated and could realistically hurt Haye and take him out. Haye will blown him out though most likely.

[Peter5]

No, I dont think he will "Save" the HW div. He will add some spice, already has I guess, but I guess it depends how his chin holds up to an extent. Plus, the HW division is SO shit at the moment, we need more than one guy to save it

[sues2nd]

He will be a player, perhaps a good one, perhaps a nobody. But it will be entertaining, which is much needed.

What concerns me is his walking around at 235, he looked awesome at 217 and hopefully he trains to that weight everytime, his power sounded like a baseball bat smacking that Bonin. Such gives high hopes for an entertaining fighter in the division that could possibly KO anybody.

OR!!!! Get KO'd by anybody.

As for my thoughts on this. Haye going to HW, automatically puts him amongst the most skilled in the division, both boxing skills and god given ones....his power will most definately follow him up...but his chin still scares me. We have all seen him hurt, seen him dropped, seen him buzzed by much smaller punchers than what he will be facing at HW.

I just want to see how he reacts to getting hit with a BOMB from a big puncher at HW first...then I will make my decision on him being the "next big thing" or "saving the division".

[WelshDevilRob]

I think Haye has all the tools to be a success at Heavyweight and the division is not exactly packed with top fighters.

Haye has the size at 6'3 and the reach. His reflexes, speed of hand and foot will make him hard to beat and he has that awesome power that will stop anyone just trying to rush him.

At 27, he is still developing and if he lives up to his potential and ability he could become one of the Great Heavyweights.

[Darwoody]

I really hope so. He has plenty of skill and speed, and he seems prepared to take on anybody.
The only question mark is over his chin, and it is a valid one, but I think it is gonna be an exciting ride. I dont have a problem getting behind guys like that. My avatar should be proof of that.

[Dragonreborn]

For all this talk of Haye's chin, my biggest worry is his stamina. He was impressive against Barrett but he looked tired by the end and if the other HW's can hold him off until mid way through the fight he will be a sitting duck. The current champs are boring but good defensive fighters and I don't see Haye dominating them.

I hope I'm wrong though.

[smoochp]

For all this talk of Haye's chin, my biggest worry is his stamina. He was impressive against Barrett but he looked tired by the end and if the other HW's can hold him off until mid way through the fight he will be a sitting duck. The current champs are boring but good defensive fighters and I don't see Haye dominating them.

I hope I'm wrong though.

Your right about his stamina. But the thing I like about him is that he doesn't waste punches at all. To me he is always on target when he throws and very accurate at that. He looks real good, so I wonder why he gets tired like that

[boxingbull]

I'm not sure if its just me or does anybody else feel that one of the fights David Haye should pay close attention to when preparing for Klistschko is "Lewis vs Bruno". But to answer the question he can but I do not think he will because I cannot see him beating either of the Klistschko's.

[Mantequilla]

He's been very inactive.I'd rather have seen him take on at least 4 or 5 journeymen\fringe contenders a year or so, to acclimatise himself to a heavyweight punch and stay sharp


Instead he's managed the grand total of one.His work ethic doesn't inspire confidence in me.

[Benny Blanco]

So is Haye going to fight Wladimir in June still?

[Peter5]

So is Haye going to fight Wladimir in June still?

Apparently it might now be in Berlin in June, if so Im going :yup:

[rayz789]

If Barrett was able to knockdown Haye with a punch ( watch the fight again and you all will see that it was from a punch that knockdown Haye) then Vitali or Wlad would do the same but better cause both of the Klits hits way harder then Barrett. Haye will easily see stars if he gets hit by either Klits brothers that's for sure.