Jose Napoles

[Sweet Pea]

What are your personal thoughts on him? He's one of my personal favorites of all time(top 3), one of the fighters I'm most impressed with and mention most often as well. Matchups with Gavilan, Rodriguez, Duran, Whitaker, Hearns go how?

This is the best film of him available to show:

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[cardstars]

He was insane in the Monzon fight. Obviously above weight and not prime, but what a madman to go at Monzon like that!

[Sweet Pea]

Originally Posted by cardstars

He was insane in the Monzon fight. Obviously above weight and not prime, but what a madman to go at Monzon like that!

I thought he was performing very well early on before Monzon caught his usual stride and just overwhelmed Napoles with his size. That's a fight that makes me think he'd have a chance of hurting Hearns early.

[cardstars]

Originally Posted by Sweet Pea

I thought he was performing very well early on before Monzon caught his usual stride and just overwhelmed Napoles with his size. That's a fight that makes me think he'd have a chance of hurting Hearns early.

I would have to agree with you. Plus I personally think that Monzon fought better backing up then Hearns did. In the Licata fight Monzon looked like Ali imo; backing up (straight at times), leaning back, and making Licata look foolish by constantly missing and chasing him. After I watched that fight I thought that Monzon and Ali were the only two people I have seen effectively get away with it

[cardstars]

Sorry about that; to answer your thread I have only seen Napoles vs Monzon so far. My next order from raging bull will surely have some of him though (and im looking to get into Gavilan too)

[Sweet Pea]

Originally Posted by cardstars

Sorry about that; to answer your thread I have only seen Napoles vs Monzon so far. My next order from raging bull will surely have some of him though (and im looking to get into Gavilan too)

Tell me what you think of the footage I posted.

Watch his footwork, always flowing movement, and ability to create and keep the fight at his distance. Very varied offensive skills when called for as well.

[teeto]

My opinion of Napoles is that he is my number 4 at welter all-time, considering he was small for the division that is a big credit to his greatness. The way he throws his hooks and uppercuts in free-flowing fashion looks unreal at times, and his movement, which Pea is a big fan of, was great, top class ring general as he knew what range he was in and what shots to throw accordingly for effectiveness.

I dont know about Rodriguez, dont have any footage, but i think he is better than Hearns, if i could make the fight p4p he would win it, but it might be a size thing for Hearns, p4p though, i would have Napoles weaving in with a better arsenal than Tommy and doing the better cleaner work and a stoppage is possible.

Gavilan is so difficult to pick a winner, hard to say who's better on the outside, the inside, just so hard to split them. Napoles will probably have the very slight boxing ability edge imo, Gavilan can make the fight close where he's in for a war, but imo will have the slight advantage, speed and resiliency are of his biggest attributes. Gavilan's combination punching are only behind Robinason at 147 for me. Anyuway, i'll take Napoles actually, to offset Gavilan's good work just enough at times to get a decision, on any other day though, The Keed could outwork him with relentless punching and not let Napoles get set.

Whitaker may be able to outbox Napoles for me, but i think that Napoles can make it very difficult how he will come in with quality unorthodox shots, they could be key, hard for a counter-puncher to counter, Whitaker may have too many tricks, but i'll take Napoles at 147.

Duran murders Napoles! Kidding

[teeto]

Just watched that fight you posted again Pea, it's great how Napoles knows how to be just out of range of his opponents' shots, and even when Napoles gets on the inside, he'll throw punches in bunches, work on his man, and if he sees his opponent shape up to throw something in return, he just slips back out, great.