Friends of MBF I need help

[smoochp]

Thanks for looking at the post but anyways some of yall already know that I want to be a student of the game and add info on fights and help the board out. But this Sat will be have a great matchup with Mirjares vd Darchinyin. But I would like to know what do I need to be looking at when analiyzing this fight. Mainly strenghts and weaknesses of both fighters. I think this would be the perfect fight to study.

So please help me out and no dumb post, because I'm serious about this shit.

Thank you
Jeff aka Smoochp

[smoochp]

Wrong forum, please move to worldwide boxing

[jecxbox]

First thing is first: Both fighters are southpaw
Darchinyan: he fights squared up as hell.
Mijares: he gives you only 1 side of his body to let you target at.

Thats how these guys are gonna be looking at each other.

Darchinyan will have nonstop jabs flicking at his face all day 24/7. He will try and get reckless to try and scare/intimidate Mijares...He will do this and if he does intimidate Mijares then perhaps Mijares won't stay in the pocket sliping punches and manipulating Darchinyan with his slick ass footwork...Next to BHOP Mijares has the sexiest footwork in the game today.

Look for Mijares to try and read Darchinyans telegraphed moves, and try to look for Darchinyan to do anything he can to confuse Mijares like doing those silly arm swings followed by a complete opposite punch such as faking an over hand punch and coming up with an uppercut with the opposite arm.

When this fight starts off Mijares is definitely going to come in being very reflexsive defensively before he starts opening up his offense.

If Mijares starts reading Darchinyan and starts opening up more then that means he already understands Darchinyans offensive pattern and game play.

The ONLY thing Darchinyan can do in there is try to make it uncomfortable in there by making Mijares feel his power, if he can't even get Mijares respect then this fight will be over before it started, it will be like 12 rounds to 0 for Mijares....

Mijares is like the closest fkn thing to a southpaw Hopkins as far as footwork and his slick cagey positioning. But the difference is that Mijares lets is hands go in very fluid like combinations.

Remember they are both southpaws so if Darchinyan can't land his punches, Mijares will warm up in the pocket and absolutely fill his face full of leather viciously.

Darchinyan isn't going to win a single round that he doesn't knock Mijares down in or buzzes Mijares...If he doesn't then he losses the round its going to be that clear of a fight to score.

[smoochp]

Damn, that was good and thanks, I hope more can help me out. But that's crazy people understand the sport like that. I really have work to do

[jecxbox]

Yeah thats my take on the fight at least.

[acb_]

First thing is first: Both fighters are southpaw
Darchinyan: he fights squared up as hell.
Mijares: he gives you only 1 side of his body to let you target at.

Thats how these guys are gonna be looking at each other.

Only thing I want to add is that these stances aren't inherent advantages or disadvantages (although they may be in this match).

The squared position stance is an offensive stance that allows a boxer to let either hand go at any time and for the rear hand to be closer to the target. The problem is that it also gives the opponent more surface area to target so it can be a liability defensively. But for a guy like Darchinyan there isn't really another way of going about it.

[jecxbox]

I agree.

Look at mike tyson, he was squared up as hell sometimes but he bent at the knees and his upper torso was a human pendulum.

Take Malinaggi now, he only gives you one angle, but it sucks cus he doesn't have much more to that game other than that jab and straight right...

Mijares isn't a Malignaggi though lol And Darchinyan isn't a tyson lol, Hell Darchinyan is just like a southpaw Mayorga basically.

The difference in skill will show, and a very fundamental difference such as fighting stance will make a huge difference in this fight IMO....Well maybe "difference" is the wrong word, but their stance differences will be very apparent when observing how the fight pans out.

[acb_]

I agree.

Look at mike tyson, he was squared up as hell sometimes but he bent at the knees and his upper torso was a human pendulum.

Take Malinaggi now, he only gives you one angle, but it sucks cus he doesn't have much more to that game other than that jab and straight right...

Mijares isn't a Malignaggi though lol And Darchinyan isn't a tyson lol, Hell Darchinyan is just like a southpaw Mayorga basically.

The difference in skill will show, and a very fundamental difference such as fighting stance will make a huge difference in this fight IMO....Well maybe "difference" is the wrong word, but their stance differences will be very apparent when observing how the fight pans out.

Yea, I just want to clear up for smoochp that while this stance will be to the detriment of Vic, it doesn't translate to be like that in all matchups.

You could go on and on about great boxers that had square stances.

[acb_]

Check out this crazed animal:

YouTube - Fighting Harada vs Katsutoshi Aoki 1964 (No Sound)

[jecxbox]

Yup, Any stance in boxing will suck. It comes down to the necessary facets that complement that particular stance/style that help the fighter excel into being an elite fighter.

How about this for an interesting thread Acb if you wanna start it since y'all know of more fighters.

list fighters who fought Squared up + a few secondary strengths that helped them excel style

list fighters who fought on an angle + a few secondary strengths that helped them excel their style

[jecxbox]

Check out this crazed animal:

YouTube - Fighting Harada vs Katsutoshi Aoki 1964 (No Sound)

Gotta love how his jab is always swinging out there as a measuring device for him to get that feel to where his opponent is...Man that guy is nuts I wish I had footage of these fighters because I'd love to analyze their game but man I got no cash for scooping this shit up and youtube just isn't good enough at time

[smoochp]

Check out this crazed animal:

YouTube - Fighting Harada vs Katsutoshi Aoki 1964 (No Sound)

I'm going to pull it up when I get home from work. But I have some of his fights, but never watched them. Also thanks for your input and I think sues2nd inspired me a little with this thread and we should do this for more matchups

[acb_]

Yup, Any stance in boxing will suck. It comes down to the necessary facets that complement that particular stance/style that help the fighter excel into being an elite fighter.

How about this for an interesting thread Acb if you wanna start it since y'all know of more fighters.

list fighters who fought Squared up + a few secondary strengths that helped them excel style

list fighters who fought on an angle + a few secondary strengths that helped them excel their style

This is a great thread idea. Why don't you start it so we can let smooch do his thing. Generally, I think of squared up fighters to be fighters who are either offensive types who need to have access to a two fisted attack (Tyson, Harada that I just posted, Trinidad), or great counter punchers who place a target in front of an opponent and lure them into the wheel house (Mosley at the lower weights was a great example of this).

[cardstars]

Check out this crazed animal:

YouTube - Fighting Harada vs Katsutoshi Aoki 1964 (No Sound)

holy shit does he have rabies

[acb_]

holy shit does he have rabies

Harada is fucking awesome...

When you can, get his two fights against Jofre, or his fights with Kingpetch or Medel. Awesome little turbine of a boxer who would run across the ring at the beginning of every round.