Thread About Running

[Motor City Sam]

Cheers Sam, never done a a full marathon before, done a half, and 3 10-12 mile races last year, 1 12 mile off raod race which was brilliant. Doing the Edinburgh marathon this year, got to get my ass in gear now, thanks to Sal Sanchez, he gave me a good running plan, Cheers Sal

Keep us posted on your training progress and let us know how you do in the race.

[Motor City Sam]

I did? Was it a copy and paste of the Hal Higdon plan? I kind of remember that........

I used the Hal Higdon plan to train for my first half back in 2007.

[Peter5]

I did? Was it a copy and paste of the Hal Higdon plan? I kind of remember that........

Sure was, The one and only Hal Higdon plan

[Peter5]

Keep us posted on your training progress and let us know how you do in the race.

Training re-starts this saturday, had some lower back trouble lately thats kept me off the road, hope to dive back in with a 5-7 mile run this saturday! Feeling good about it actually, nothing quite like the open road, early morning, no-one about, just you, your Ipod, and a few Deer playing chicken with you on the hills!

[Motor City Sam]

Training re-starts this saturday, had some lower back trouble lately thats kept me off the road, hope to dive back in with a 5-7 mile run this saturday! Feeling good about it actually, nothing quite like the open road, early morning, no-one about, just you, your Ipod, and a few Deer playing chicken with you on the hills!

Runs like that are so peaceful and therapuetic. You feel like you're getting a head start on the whole world.

Have a good run on Saturday. Take care of that back.

[salsanchezfan]

Sure was, The one and only Hal Higdon plan

Ah, okay. Yeah, his plans seem pretty solid. Which plan are you using? I'm doing the Advanced II method this time, after having done the Intermediate II last year. They add an extra day and some speed work for the advanced.

It's going by fast this time. Seems like I just started, and I'm already in the middle of week 4.

[Peter5]

Runs like that are so peaceful and therapuetic. You feel like you're getting a head start on the whole world.

Have a good run on Saturday. Take care of that back.

Damn straight Nothing like watching the sun rise while your out running and the rest of civilisation is still sleeping. Hopefully the back is ok now, let you know saturday how the run went. Good luck with your training for the half by the way, I remember my first half, had serious trouble with my calf muscles at about 8 miles for some reason, probably went off too fast, adrenalin does that I guess, only determination got me to the end!!

[Peter5]

Ah, okay. Yeah, his plans seem pretty solid. Which plan are you using? I'm doing the Advanced II method this time, after having done the Intermediate II last year. They add an extra day and some speed work for the advanced.

It's going by fast this time. Seems like I just started, and I'm already in the middle of week 4.

Intermediate II I think Sal, good luck with the advanced one, I hate speed work, although I have read/heared it pays massive dividends.

Pro Scottish runner, Liz Mcloughlin (?) said she only ever ran 17 miles in preparation for a marathon, she used speed work (interval training) to build up her bodies tolerance to lactic acid. Guess there are shit loads of ways to train, each to their own I guess!

[salsanchezfan]

Today's 14-miler ended the fifth of 18 weeks in my training plan. It's going well so far. Today's run was done at an easy pace until the last two miles, which I wanted to do a bit faster.

This marks the first week that has me over 30 miles, and everything's holding up just fine so far.

[Peter5]

Today's 14-miler ended the fifth of 18 weeks in my training plan. It's going well so far. Today's run was done at an easy pace until the last two miles, which I wanted to do a bit faster.

This marks the first week that has me over 30 miles, and everything's holding up just fine so far.

Nice one Sal! Last week, started on the Sunday, then, tuesday, thursday, friday, all 4 miles before work, and Did 8 miles on the Saturday. Back seems ok, plus I have booked 3 races, one is in 2 weeks, a 10 mile race. Week after that I have an 11 mile off-road race, then hope to do some halfs and longer, just got to keep plugging away, although the weather is shite here at the moment, I was running in snow this morning Its all good though!

Anyone here ever hand their running gait analysed? If so, did it pay dividends, or nothing of note?

[salsanchezfan]

Nice one Sal! Last week, started on the Sunday, then, tuesday, thursday, friday, all 4 miles before work, and Did 8 miles on the Saturday. Back seems ok, plus I have booked 3 races, one is in 2 weeks, a 10 mile race. Week after that I have an 11 mile off-road race, then hope to do some halfs and longer, just got to keep plugging away, although the weather is shite here at the moment, I was running in snow this morning Its all good though!

Anyone here ever hand their running gait analysed? If so, did it pay dividends, or nothing of note?

Wow; that's some ambitious race schedule, nice work! You know you're motivated when you run in snow. That's officially hardcore.

Having your gait analyzed is a useful thing, if for no other reason than it will tell you what kind of shoes you need. Far too often, people just go to some sporting goods outlet store and snag something off the shelf they think looks good. What they aren't taking into consideration is that running shoes are in no way alike. You walk into a running store and what do you see? A wall full of different types. It's that way for a reason; some shoes are meant for lighter runners with a clean stride, some are racing flats; some offer more cushioning for people wth flatter feet or heavier runners. Some aid runners who pronate (landing with toes pointed somewhat inward) some supinate (with feet landing pointing outward, like a duck).

Everyone's build, foot type and stride are different, and hence need the proper type of shoe to meet all those needs.

Having your gait analyzed will answer many of these questions, and guide you to the right shoe. Guessing wrong can lead to injuries. It's kind of a big deal.

One thing analyzing won't tell you is what arch type you have. No sweat, you can do this yourself. Just wet your foot, and then place it on a paper towel or some such where you can see the foot imprint. If you see the entire outline of your foot, well.........you have flat feet. If just the toes, ball, and heel of the foot, you have a normal arch. If the ball and heel of the foot appear but only partially, then you have high arches. Tell the salesperson this when you go to get your gait looked at; that'll help.

[Peter5]

Wow; that's some ambitious race schedule, nice work! You know you're motivated when you run in snow. That's officially hardcore.

Having your gait analyzed is a useful thing, if for no other reason than it will tell you what kind of shoes you need. Far too often, people just go to some sporting goods outlet store and snag something off the shelf they think looks good. What they aren't taking into consideration is that running shoes are in no way alike. You walk into a running store and what do you see? A wall full of different types. It's that way for a reason; some shoes are meant for lighter runners with a clean stride, some are racing flats; some offer more cushioning for people wth flatter feet or heavier runners. Some aid runners who pronate (landing with toes pointed somewhat inward) some supinate (with feet landing pointing outward, like a duck).

Everyone's build, foot type and stride are different, and hence need the proper type of shoe to meet all those needs.

Having your gait analyzed will answer many of these questions, and guide you to the right shoe. Guessing wrong can lead to injuries. It's kind of a big deal.

One thing analyzing won't tell you is what arch type you have. No sweat, you can do this yourself. Just wet your foot, and then place it on a paper towel or some such where you can see the foot imprint. If you see the entire outline of your foot, well.........you have flat feet. If just the toes, ball, and heel of the foot, you have a normal arch. If the ball and heel of the foot appear but only partially, then you have high arches. Tell the salesperson this when you go to get your gait looked at; that'll help.

Cheers Sal, Im hoping to get my gait analysed sooner rather than later, although the arch thing I already have done, High arches I think, heel toes and only a thin slither of the outside of my foot is shown.

Still fucking snowing here, didnt get running this morning, slipped at work and fell hard on my back, hurt my neck somewhat, and plus, its too damn slippery out there at the moment to risk further damage.

Good luck with your training man, keep us posted on your progress

[acb_]

Sal... just wanted to give you an update:

You said that I should stop running on sand and try running on concrete (our conversation about shin splints) and I did try this. Well, it worked great and the splints are going away.

This is after 4 years of running on only sand and grass. I really appreciate the tip. I'm still not running long distances (about 2-3.5 miles, 3 times a week) but its really nice just to be able to run again.

Thanks Sal!

[salsanchezfan]

Sal... just wanted to give you an update:

You said that I should stop running on sand and try running on concrete (our conversation about shin splints) and I did try this. Well, it worked great and the splints are going away.

This is after 4 years of running on only sand and grass. I really appreciate the tip. I'm still not running long distances (about 2-3.5 miles, 3 times a week) but its really nice just to be able to run again.

Thanks Sal!

You bet, glad things are working out well.

I should add that I didn't mean to imply that running on concrete is the only way to go or in any way healthier, just that I think all the hoopla about people swearing off running on hard surfaces is largely overblown.

It definitely wouldn't hurt to run on grass or a track once a week or so. Sorry if I put that message across wrong; I actually have no problem with running on softer surfaces (though running in sand sounds like a great way to tweak muscles and tendons). Just that this unholy fear of hard surfaces many have is unfounded.

[Peter5]

Well, Ive been off the running for a week or two, had an appointment at the podiatrist on Monday, I now have some orthotics in my shoes, was suffering from sore achiilles tendons when I ran (Stretched like a mother fucker!), went for a run today with the insoles/orthotics, seems to work a treat! Hopefully be able to do this 11 mile off road race this weekend, hopefully.