Hopkins vs Pavlik does bad numbers 190,000

[smoochp]

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There talking about hard times, well they should put that bs of a fight on 12/6 on regular HBO

[jecxbox]

now that elite xc is done, maybe boxing should try and get shit on regular TV!

[sues2nd]

That is sad...

Tho I think most people thinking it was a forgone conclusion that Pavlik was either going to KO him or just simply outwork him played into the low numbers...the casual fan most of the time will not waste their money on what they believe is a mismatch or blowout (ignore the Tyson prime numbers of course...different game back then...and Tyson was MUST SEE TV!!!).

I mean, Winky, Tarver, both Taylor's did good numbers...as did Pavlik - Taylor 2...so it definately leads into the belief that what I outlinded above was the main cause.

As jecx said tho...boxing needs something like that. A Sat. night...prime time...regular tv (4-5-7 or even fox) weekly fight night.

[smoochp]

Originally Posted by sues2nd

That is sad...

Tho I think most people thinking it was a forgone conclusion that Pavlik was either going to KO him or just simply outwork him played into the low numbers...the casual fan most of the time will not waste their money on what they believe is a mismatch or blowout (ignore the Tyson prime numbers of course...different game back then...and Tyson was MUST SEE TV!!!).

I mean, Winky, Tarver, both Taylor's did good numbers...as did Pavlik - Taylor 2...so it definately leads into the belief that what I outlinded above was the main cause.

As jecx said tho...boxing needs something like that. A Sat. night...prime time...regular tv (4-5-7 or even fox) weekly fight night.

I sorry my dude, but this was like the first HBO PPV I havent ordered in a while. The reason is because I think alot of Hops fights are boring and the undercard didnt help either. But I did see it on a stream and got it on DVD now. But that was a great performance and I will be ordering the next two coming up

[JonesdBest]

i mean, why would anyone that has paid to see hopkins ever do so again?

[sues2nd]

So after seeing that performance...you guys still think Hopkins being boring is a forgone conclusion?

For that matter have the both of you seen it? It was pure masterclass. Far from boring...

[smoochp]

Originally Posted by JonesdBest

i mean, why would anyone that has paid to see hopkins ever do so again?

I remember acb, before the fight said that I learned not to order his fights anymore. But we had the best looking stream in a while to watch the fight. But it was a great fight my dude.

[sues2nd]

That said tho...look at most fights. If the general consensus is that its gonna be a blowout...the fights almost all of the time do bad numbers (as I said, fighters like Tyson are the exception, not the rule).

[smoochp]

Originally Posted by sues2nd

So after seeing that performance...you guys still think Hopkins being boring is a forgone conclusion?

For that matter have the both of you seen it? It was pure masterclass. Far from boring...

Yes we watched it on a stream and it was a great fight. But the problem is you have to think twice about ordering his fights yourself

[smoochp]

Originally Posted by sues2nd

That said tho...look at most fights. If the general consensus is that its gonna be a blowout...the fights almost all of the time do bad numbers (as I said, fighters like Tyson are the exception, not the rule).

I think they say 300,000 and up is pretty good #'s.

[sues2nd]

Originally Posted by smoochp

I think they say 300,000 and up is pretty good #'s.

This is the first one of his PPVs that did below 300k.

[smoochp]

Originally Posted by sues2nd

This is the first one of his PPVs that did below 300k.

I know but shit happens sometimes in these are economic times. You have to think twice about ever thing you spend your money on

[jecxbox]

Guys this is very simple. Boxing doesn't connect with AngloAmerican's in the USA period. There is no other way to put this...Boxers that come out of Britain have massive country support. Boxers that come out of any latin country, PR/Mex/Cuba/Dom etc etc etc...They have their whole country behind them.

I have no idea why American's don't root behind their boxers. You get them rooting feverishly behind American TEAMS with a group of athletes, but why won't they get behind an individual solo athlete in boxing? I don't get it..Where is the American pride backing these great American boxers? Nationality has a HUGE role in GLOBAL sports, that is something that American's completely overlook. We are so used to our American Baseball and our American Football and American Hockey...But when it comes to global competition we either turn a blind eye or are ignorant to the fact that national pride is seriously thrown into supporting these athletes.

[McGrain]

I never understood the concern with this stuff. So a lot of people missed a great fight. None of us did! We all saw it...there is more money than ever for the fighters and great fights still get made.

The numbers are just numbers.

[McGrain]

Originally Posted by jecxbox

Guys this is very simple. Boxing doesn't connect with AngloAmerican's in the USA period. There is no other way to put this...Boxers that come out of Britain have massive country support. Boxers that come out of any latin country, PR/Mex/Cuba/Dom etc etc etc...They have their whole country behind them.

I have no idea why American's don't root behind their boxers. You get them rooting feverishly behind American TEAMS with a group of athletes, but why won't they get behind an individual solo athlete in boxing? I don't get it..Where is the American pride backing these great American boxers? Nationality has a HUGE role in GLOBAL sports, that is something that American's completely overlook. We are so used to our American Baseball and our American Football and American Hockey...But when it comes to global competition we either turn a blind eye or are ignorant to the fact that national pride is seriously thrown into supporting these athletes.

Interesting post.