So who would everyone like to see Hopkins in with next then?

[dan-b]

What with Kessler's recent comments I thought I would get everyone's opinion. My order of preference would be thus-

1) Rematch with Joke
2) Dawson
3) Kessler
4) Rematch with Taylor

Hopkins has said if he fights again it will be soon which is the right move because it keeps him fresh off a good performance.

[smoochp]

I would love to see that fight with Kessler and Hop to tell the truth. If a Dawson fights with Calzaghe doesnt pop off. Why not fight the ones in a rematch who gave you a hard time. But if a Joe fight can happen, its all good.

Hop will not fight Dawson I dont believe

Is this your first thread?

[cardstars]

1) Dawson
2) JC
3) Kess

I really don't have a huge interest in seeing him in there with Taylor to be honest

[dan-b]

Originally Posted by smoochp

Is this your first thread?

Nah there have been a couple of others.

[Brooklyn1550]

1. Chad Dawson
2. Mikkel Kessler
3. Rematch with Calzaghe
4. Winner of Taylor/Lacy

[McGrain]

I would like to see him back in with Calzaghe. I loved that fight and I wonder. I would favour any version of Hopkins with 12 good rounds in his lungs to beat Joe. Maybe he knows what is needed now.

[smoochp]

Cant lie its seems Joe is really the man right now

[Igor]

A Dawson fight would be the only fight I would get excited for. A Calzaghe rematch is pointless IMO. That was Joe on a pretty bad night and he still won about 8-9 rounds in a very annoying, dirty fight. The only time Calzaghe-Hopkins would have truly meant something was quite a few years ago. I think Hopkins either needs to fight Dawson or retire.. maybe Kessler too, but Dawson is a much more interesting matchup and a fight he actually has a realistic chance in.

[jecxbox]

Originally Posted by McGrain

I would like to see him back in with Calzaghe. I loved that fight and I wonder. I would favour any version of Hopkins with 12 good rounds in his lungs to beat Joe. Maybe he knows what is needed now.

lol your avatar is so sick

[Illmatic]

to be realistic, I dont think he really has any options.

He is going to go after older guys with big names or limited guys with big names. He isn't going to fight up n coming stars for chump change

Kessler- no name
Dawson- no name
RJJ- no money in it anymore
Calz- won't fight a rematch
Wright- already beat
Tarver- already beat
Pavlik- already beat
DLH- wont fight him again
Trinidad- hmmm.......

...he'll fight Trinidad.

[DanePugilist]

A big part of me wants Hopkins to hang up the gloves. He is still an competitive fighter, but his mere presence disrupts those fights that were supposed to happen, because he is a big name, and fighters would rather face him than someone at their own division.

I read this morning, that according to Kessler and team Palle their priorities are like this:

1. Calzaghe
2. Hopkins
3. Taylor/Lacy.

To me it just seems like he wants to face Hopkins over ie Taylor is that he will gain more recognition in doing so. Same can be said of the Wright, Tito, DLH, Calzaghe, and Pavlik fights. People moving up just to face this old fighter - most of it because they will gain alot of respect for facing him, and he them for facing younger fighters. I want this shit to stop really.

Boxing isn't supposed to be a circus, but should be fights between fighters that are top ranks in the given divisions, and not chasing of name fighters.

So who do I want Hopkins to face next? RJJ and then both can hang up their gloves, so the young people can fight each other again...

[dan-b]

Originally Posted by DanePugilist

Boxing isn't supposed to be a circus

I agree but nothing could be more of a circus than what we witnessed on Saturday. I take on board on what you say about Kessler, and even said so in the thread about him calling out Bernard, but Hopkins isn't an ordinary 43 year old and is still considered one of the best at 175 so surely a rematch with Joke or a fight with Dawson can be considered legitimate. What are the names of these other fighters that should be getting shots at the aforementioned fighters over Hopkins?

[DanePugilist]

Originally Posted by dan-b

I agree but nothing could be more of a circus than what we witnessed on Saturday. I take on board on what you say about Kessler, and even said so in the thread about him calling out Bernard, but Hopkins isn't an ordinary 43 year old and is still considered one of the best at 175 so surely a rematch with Joke or a fight with Dawson can be considered legitimate. What are the names of these other fighters that should be getting shots at the aforementioned fighters over Hopkins?

Hopkins only competitive because he fights smart, and fights smaller guys, or has vast stylistic advantage. Fighters who has no business in LHW jumps up there to face him instead of taking on their immediate threats at their own divisions. It's a circus act, when someone who hasn't fought one single fight at a division jumps past alot of other guys to face the top man(who in turn skipped past everyone there to face Tarver, who in turn just beat a more shot fighter than himself).

Pavlik should have turned his attention to AA, Calzaghe should have rematched Kessler, or fought Dawson, Wright had no business at LHW, and should have rematched Taylor(since it was highly controversial), Tito had no business there with Hopkins, nor RJJ(against Calzaghe), nor DLH. This circle jerking, where each get highly recognized for facing each other, when it is quite obvious that they are faded versions of former selves.

Hopkins only stayed competitive with Calzaghe because he refused to box, and just turned it into an ugly fight. He looked good vs Pavlik, who isn't really an outstanding boxer, nor has he previously been higher than 164.

RJJ, Hopkins, Pavlik, Miranda, DLH, Tarver, Wright and Taylor are no where near the level of their names/hype - its rediculous that this circus goes on. I hope that Kessler never faces Hopkins, because its a fucking joke to me. He should fight Calzaghe, Dawson, Bute, Froch/Pascal, Inkin which are all more relavant fights.

Same goes for Oscar - the fact that Pacman wants to have a piece of him, and vice versa is a fucking circus. Let it stop...

[dan-b]

Originally Posted by DanePugilist

Hopkins only competitive because he fights smart, and fights smaller guys, or has vast stylistic advantage. Fighters who has no business in LHW jumps up there to face him instead of taking on their immediate threats at their own divisions. It's a circus act, when someone who hasn't fought one single fight at a division jumps past alot of other guys to face the top man(who in turn skipped past everyone there to face Tarver, who in turn just beat a more shot fighter than himself).

Pavlik should have turned his attention to AA, Calzaghe should have rematched Kessler, or fought Dawson, Wright had no business at LHW, and should have rematched Taylor(since it was highly controversial), Tito had no business there with Hopkins, nor RJJ(against Calzaghe), nor DLH. This circle jerking, where each get highly recognized for facing each other, when it is quite obvious that they are faded versions of former selves.

Hopkins only stayed competitive with Calzaghe because he refused to box, and just turned it into an ugly fight. He looked good vs Pavlik, who isn't really an outstanding boxer, nor has he previously been higher than 164.

RJJ, Hopkins, Pavlik, Miranda, DLH, Tarver, Wright and Taylor are no where near the level of their names/hype - its rediculous that this circus goes on. I hope that Kessler never faces Hopkins, because its a fucking joke to me. He should fight Calzaghe, Dawson, Bute, Froch/Pascal, Inkin which are all more relavant fights.

Same goes for Oscar - the fact that Pacman wants to have a piece of him, and vice versa is a fucking circus. Let it stop...

Right, that's some rant there DP. One that I haven't the time to answer fully because I'm at work. It seems as if you're trying to lay the blame for all this at Hopkins door for some reason. For Kessler to rematch Joke that would have to take place at 175. There's nothing stopping Pavlik from fighting Abraham who was already commited to his IBF mandatory when he fought Hopkins.

When Hopkins fought Tarver, who was more deserving and an outstanding candidate at that time? I don't know his name. If Kessler wants to stay at 168, as I think he should, he will get to face the other contenders/beltholders there.

I really don't see why you're being so negative.

[DanePugilist]

Originally Posted by dan-b

Right, that's some rant there DP. One that I haven't the time to answer fully because I'm at work. It seems as if you're trying to lay the blame for all this at Hopkins door for some reason. For Kessler to rematch Joke that would have to take place at 175. There's nothing stopping Pavlik from fighting Abraham who was already commited to his IBF mandatory when he fought Hopkins.

When Hopkins fought Tarver, who was more deserving and an outstanding candidate at that time? I don't know his name. If Kessler wants to stay at 168, as I think he should, he will get to face the other contenders/beltholders there.

I really don't see why you're being so negative.

I am not laying any blame on Hopkins door. I have previously said that he is one of the best at handpicking fights, and I stand by that. I am not trying to blame anyone - but the networks and to some extent the fans for going with the hype.

The reasons why Kessler thinks Hopkins is viable is for the reason that the networks will think this fight is viable; it's a fight that they would want to happen.

Who was more deserving than a Hopkins that just came off two losses at 160? Anyone who fought at LHWs top 10 really... Stop being an idiot.