Pac looks sluggish from Roach's own mouth

[acb_]

Originally Posted by Peter5

Which is my point, none of us should read too much into it, it could all be taken out of context anyway

The things I wrote are thoughts from long before this article though.

[Illmatic]

Originally Posted by smoochp

Yep I was about to post that

For the record...Concepcion and Bautista are scared shitless of Juanma. He has to keep going to mexico and latin america to find guys willing to face him.

[smoochp]

Originally Posted by Illmatic

For the record...Concepcion and Bautista are scared shitless of Juanma. He has to keep going to mexico and latin america to find guys willing to face him.

I would be too, he is a beast 4 real. But I beat I'm probably seven inches taller than that boy

[acb_]

Originally Posted by smoochp

I would be too, he is a beast 4 real. But I beat I'm probably seven inches taller than that boy

[Peter5]

Originally Posted by acb_

The things I wrote are thoughts from long before this article though.

About Roach? Does that have to do with his comments about B-Hop? In any case, Im sure Roach aint no saint, but I dont think he is selling Pac out, but I might be wrong

[smoochp]

Originally Posted by acb_

I just thought about what I'm going to burn you next. It will be a suprise and you will love the set 4 real

[acb_]

Originally Posted by Peter5

About Roach? Does that have to do with his comments about B-Hop? In any case, Im sure Roach aint no saint, but I dont think he is selling Pac out, but I might be wrong

Its strictly to do with this fight. IMO he is throwing Pac to the wolves & the coincidence of him being paid huge money doesn't sit well.

And to further prove the point, like Jex said he won't be able to compete at his natural weight after this. So is he going to be a welter now? A jr. welter?

[Peter5]

Originally Posted by acb_

Its strictly to do with this fight. IMO he is throwing Pac to the wolves & the coincidence of him being paid huge money doesn't sit well.

And to further prove the point, like Jex said he won't be able to compete at his natural weight after this. So is he going to be a welter now? A jr. welter?

I would think he would fight at J. Welter after this, not his ideal weight, but is 135? Who knows, personally, Im not going to shit on Roach from a friggin article, not considering journalists are not to be trusted to put the words in the true context of the conversation in the first place.

Until I hear Pac complaining about Roach himself, I'll step aside and see what happens....Also not sure what your Wolves comment is about, Pac wanted this fight himself

[Jay]

Pac is foolish - he's seeing money, dlh looking faded and thinks he can capitalize. he also thinks if he cant - he's nicely paid and he'll just go back to whatever weight he wants to.

he cant - like roy, this will kill him and his career irrespective of what happens against dlh.

As for the article - roach wouldnt sell pac out like that, it's mind games if the report is actually true and taken in the proper context. In a way - DLH smashing Pac to bits would do boxing a favour - if pac won, or made it competitive, we'd see more of these stupid jumps - imagine someone like JMM with Margarito? Cambpell against Williams? Abraham against Adamek. Roy managed it because he was a marvel, and because he chose a fighter he could beat. Toney managed it as well, although he also took drugs (roy was also linked - but i dont know enough to comment), and it was still the same fighter ruiz.

As much as i'd love to see Joe for example - move to HW for one fight, and fight say Valuev - and just rely on outboxing him and whatever - it's a stupid idea and could lead to a fighter getting seriously injured. maybe dlh sending pac out (hopefully not too badly hurt) will send the message that this shouldnt happen for a reason.

[Pacdbest]

It's only one day of no sleep guys. Have you tried to work or drive without sleeping? It will affect you.

They will probably will abandon that supplement & just eat something Natural.

[Jay]

but pacd - surely you understand that this fight will be the end of pacs career? win or lose? his body will almost certainly not recover from this.

[smoochp]

Weight drainded vs Overweight this will be the greatest fight ever

[Pacdbest]

Originally Posted by Jay

but pacd - surely you understand that this fight will be the end of pacs career? win or lose? his body will almost certainly not recover from this.

Or this could be just a bluff to trick DLH.

[Pacdbest]

Originally Posted by smoochp

Weight drainded vs Overweight this will be the greatest fight ever

I think this will be a Great fight with Pac Dominating the last rounds. THe way I saw how Drained DLH looked, I'm becoming more confident of Pac's chances.

[jecxbox]

Do you guys even think 135lbs is Pacquiao's Natural weight? 130lbs was his last Natural weight by far..by far! He looked good against David Diaz...But that was David Diazzzzzz c'mon now! The guy got a gift against Erik Morales who was already sooo battle torn from getting destroyed by Manny Pacquiao.

I would have loved to see Manny Pacquiao inch up to fighting DLH in the sense of fighting Hatton first at 140lbs...Just to easy into the weight.

Pacquiao is blowing up with muscle mass all the way up past 140lbs to fight DLH...

Then he is gonna have to drain to get back down to 135lbs if he ever wants to fight there again...It is definitely going to SUCK for Pacquiao post the DLH fight.

This is exactly how fighters age OVERNIGHT.