Pac looks sluggish from Roach's own mouth - Page 3

Jay · 11-14-2008, 05:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Pacdbest

Or this could be just a bluff to trick DLH.

no no. you either misunderstand or ignore my question/point.

Pac is pushing his body beyond belief. Whether or not he wins this fight - the weight, the supplements, the physical strain on his muscles - pac WILL be ruined from this fight, win or lose. We saw what happened to Roy - it killed his career. Is a small chance of a win over De La Hoya worth a fighters career? worth a fighters possible well being?

You're being blind to how severe this could be, he's likely take shots from the biggest, hardest punching guy he's faced, who's bigger in every strength of the word. DLH has the jab to punish pac, and the extra weight will almost certainly deprive him (pac) of his stamina later rounds, his power will almost certainly be less effective - and only bhop stopped dlh - pac wont have the same power as bhop, and the weight drain wont affect dlh as much as the weight gain will affect pac. dlh has been preparing for this for months - that was the point of having the forbes fight at such a low catch weight, he knew he might have to go to 147, and has been preparing for a while.

You consider yourself one of pac's greatest fans - as a true fan, are you not at all concerned at the potential damage to manny pacquiao as a result of this?

Igor · 11-14-2008, 05:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Jay

You consider yourself one of pac's greatest fans - as a true fan, are you not at all concerned at the potential damage to manny pacquiao as a result of this?

You're trying to make sense to a guy who would probably love to see Pac fight Pavlik and would favor Manny to KO him.. it's impossible to make PacDBest think logically.

About the story.. who cares. All of these stories surrounding the fight are silly and pointless to pay any serious attention too. The more boxing fans talk about this fight, the better it is for the promotion of it. That's the only reason this story was made.

Jay · 11-14-2008, 05:36 PM

This is going to likely be a fight where people will not want to watch, but like a bad accident or disaster or something - they have to watch it happen.

smoochp · 11-14-2008, 05:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Pacdbest

I think this will be a Great fight with Pac Dominating the last rounds. THe way I saw how Drained DLH looked, I'm becoming more confident of Pac's chances.

This fight will probably be worse than Hoya ve Gatti. With that said I will be suprised if this shit last 5 rounds

smoochp · 11-14-2008, 05:41 PM

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Originally Posted by jecxbox

Do you guys even think 135lbs is Pacquiao's Natural weight? 130lbs was his last Natural weight by far..by far! He looked good against David Diaz...But that was David Diazzzzzz c'mon now! The guy got a gift against Erik Morales who was already sooo battle torn from getting destroyed by Manny Pacquiao.

I would have loved to see Manny Pacquiao inch up to fighting DLH in the sense of fighting Hatton first at 140lbs...Just to easy into the weight.

Pacquiao is blowing up with muscle mass all the way up past 140lbs to fight DLH...

Then he is gonna have to drain to get back down to 135lbs if he ever wants to fight there again...It is definitely going to SUCK for Pacquiao post the DLH fight.

This is exactly how fighters age OVERNIGHT.

Pac looked small as shit against Diaz but was cut up. Imagine him next to Juan Diaz or even Hatton

Pacdbest · 11-14-2008, 06:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Jay

no no. you either misunderstand or ignore my question/point.

Pac is pushing his body beyond belief. Whether or not he wins this fight - the weight, the supplements, the physical strain on his muscles - pac WILL be ruined from this fight, win or lose. We saw what happened to Roy - it killed his career. Is a small chance of a win over De La Hoya worth a fighters career? worth a fighters possible well being?

You're being blind to how severe this could be, he's likely take shots from the biggest, hardest punching guy he's faced, who's bigger in every strength of the word. DLH has the jab to punish pac, and the extra weight will almost certainly deprive him (pac) of his stamina later rounds, his power will almost certainly be less effective - and only bhop stopped dlh - pac wont have the same power as bhop, and the weight drain wont affect dlh as much as the weight gain will affect pac. dlh has been preparing for this for months - that was the point of having the forbes fight at such a low catch weight, he knew he might have to go to 147, and has been preparing for a while.

You consider yourself one of pac's greatest fans - as a true fan, are you not at all concerned at the potential damage to manny pacquiao as a result of this?

As far as I know they will be weighing in below 147. Pac will be comfortable while DLH will be Draining. I'm more worried about DLH's health than Pac on this fight.

You know what happen to RJJ right?

Pacdbest · 11-14-2008, 06:07 PM

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Originally Posted by smoochp

Pac looked small as shit against Diaz but was cut up. Imagine him next to Juan Diaz or even Hatton

Diaz will look like a fat Kid next to an athletic Pac. Hatton's extra skin will show next to extra fit pac.

Pacdbest · 11-14-2008, 06:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Igor

You're trying to make sense to a guy who would probably love to see Pac fight Pavlik and would favor Manny to KO him.. it's impossible to make PacDBest think logically.

About the story.. who cares. All of these stories surrounding the fight are silly and pointless to pay any serious attention too. The more boxing fans talk about this fight, the better it is for the promotion of it. That's the only reason this story was made.

How many times you were wrong against Pac? How many times I'm right?

11-14-2008, 06:13 PM

It's just a psychological ploy by Roach. Take it w/ a grain of salt.

WiDDoW_MaKeR · 11-14-2008, 06:15 PM

Sure can't be blamed on the weight gain. Because he hasn't had to gain any weight.

smoochp · 11-14-2008, 06:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Pacdbest

How many times you were wrong against Pac? How many times I'm right?

We already did this, most of us only said Pac would lose the second fight against Marquez and win the first Morales fight

dan-b · 11-14-2008, 06:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Pacdemonium

It's just a psychological ploy by Roach. Take it w/ a grain of salt.

Whose alias is this?

jecxbox · 11-14-2008, 06:18 PM

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Originally Posted by dan-b

Whose alias is this?

Igor · 11-14-2008, 06:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Pacdbest

How many times you were wrong against Pac? How many times I'm right?

I haven't been wrong about a Pac fight yet.

Picked Pac over Morales in the third fight, over Barrera in the second fight, KO Solis, KO Diaz.. picked him to lose to Marquez. December 6th will be a sad night for you.

smoochp · 11-14-2008, 06:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Igor

I haven't been wrong about a Pac fight yet.

Picked Pac over Morales in the third fight, over Barrera in the second fight, KO Solis, KO Diaz.. picked him to lose to Marquez. December 6th will be a sad night for you.

I think so also and a sad night for non-boxing fans who will fall for this hype

11-14-2008, 06:13 PM	#39 (permalink)
Pacdemonium Guest Posts: n/a	Re: Pac looks sluggish from Roach's own mouth It's just a psychological ploy by Roach. Take it w/ a grain of salt.

11-14-2008, 06:15 PM	#40 (permalink)
WiDDoW_MaKeR Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 15	Re: Pac looks sluggish from Roach's own mouth Sure can't be blamed on the weight gain. Because he hasn't had to gain any weight.

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