Pac looks sluggish from Roach's own mouth

[smoochp]

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Don't know what to think of it at all

[acb_]

Because "he hasn't adjusted to his supplements".

Maybe if you had him fighting (and sparring) with someone his own size this wouldn't be necessary. I almost feel sorry for Pac that Roach would sell him out like this, in addition to all of his people also.

Anyone else's opinion shifted on Roach?

Boxing has weight classes for a reason. This will be a reminder.

[Peter5]

Nor me, something of a nothingness (is that a word, it is now!) Is Victor on the undercard or has he been removed Smooch?

[Peter5]

Originally Posted by acb_

Because "he hasn't adjusted to his supplements".

Maybe if you had him fighting (and sparring) with someone his own size this wouldn't be necessary. I almost feel sorry for Pac that Roach would sell him out like this, in addition to all of his people also.

Anyone else's opinion shifted on Roach?

Boxing has weight classes for a reason. This will be a reminder.

You dont think this could be mind games? Why would roach sell out on his main man?

[acb_]

Originally Posted by Peter5

You dont think this could be mind games? Why would roach sell out on his main man?

He gets a trainer's cut of the purse that will equal the combined cut of Marquez, Guzman, Diaz... all of them together and then some...

And, Pac may be favored to beat any of those guys but he would likely lose to one or two also and that would lower his market value. His stock is highest now so Roach is cashing in to the consequence of his boxer.

Very little respect for that.

[Benny Blanco]

Originally Posted by Peter5

Nor me, something of a nothingness (is that a word, it is now!) Is Victor on the undercard or has he been removed Smooch?

I believe he still on the undercard, and Juanma Lopez and Bernarbe Concepcion will be fighting against eachother on the undercard.

[Peter5]

Originally Posted by acb_

He gets a trainer's cut of the purse that will equal the combined cut of Marquez, Guzman, Diaz... all of them together and then some...

And, Pac may be favored to beat any of those guys but he would likely lose to one or two also and that would lower his market value. His stock is highest now so Roach is cashing in to the consequence of his boxer.

Very little respect for that.

Well, that may be your opinion ACB, and of course your entitled to it, but I will reserve my judgement for a little while yet






Personally, I dont actually think alot was said, it might even be a "pick me up" for Pac to increase his intensity, another mind game from Roach, but like I say, I'll leave it a while before I think Roach is selling Pac down the River, at the moment, I just cant see it, especially when Roach is quoted as saying Pac will KO Oscar in the 9th etc, contradicting himself somewhat

[Peter5]

Originally Posted by Benny Blanco

I believe he still on the undercard, and Juanma Lopez and Bernarbe Concepcion will be fighting against eachother on the undercard.

Looking forward to the 6th even more! Go Juanma

[jecxbox]

Originally Posted by acb_

Because "he hasn't adjusted to his supplements".

Maybe if you had him fighting (and sparring) with someone his own size this wouldn't be necessary. I almost feel sorry for Pac that Roach would sell him out like this, in addition to all of his people also.

Anyone else's opinion shifted on Roach?

Boxing has weight classes for a reason. This will be a reminder.

Kiss Manny Pacquiao's prime good bye after this fight. They are fucking with his muscle composition with supplements, building his muscle for a meaningless fight...Have fun dropping back down to 135lbs Pac...Cus your gonna get your ass beat when you come back down!

[Benny Blanco]

I'm pretty sure this is not the first time Roach has seened something wrong with Pacquiao in this training camp but he probably tried to ignore it but could'nt now that he has seened it to be continous. I think reality might be hitting home now to the Pacquiao camp that this fight should have never been made.

[Illmatic]

Originally Posted by Peter5

You dont think this could be mind games? Why would roach sell out on his main man?

Yup...all mind games. He wants DLH to take Pac lightly, struggle to make weight, and come in drained himself.

[acb_]

Originally Posted by Illmatic

Yup...all mind games. He wants DLH to take Pac lightly, struggle to make weight, and come in drained himself.

Or to motivate Pac.

Or its really true.

It could be a mix of all 3.

[Peter5]

Originally Posted by acb_

Or to motivate Pac.

Or its really true.

It could be a mix of all 3.

Which is my point, none of us should read too much into it, it could all be taken out of context anyway

[Illmatic]

Originally Posted by Benny Blanco

I believe he still on the undercard, and Juanma Lopez and Bernarbe Concepcion will be fighting against eachother on the undercard.

I that bum Concepcion backed out again. Primera hora says he's fighting Sergio Medina.

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[smoochp]

Originally Posted by Illmatic

I that bum Concepcion backed out again. Primera hora says he's fighting Sergio Medina.

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Yep I was about to post that