Name the most ______________ fighter...

Illmatic · 11-22-2008, 04:01 AM

Overrated fighter of the last 25 years:

Underrated fighter of the last 25 years:

Overrated fighter of all time:

Underrated fighter of all time:

Most exciting fighter under welterweight of the last 20 years:

Most exciting fighter over welterweight of the last 20 years:

The second best cruiserweight of all time:

Greatest heavyweight fighter pre-Louis:

Greatest PR fighter of all time:

Greatest Mexican fighter of time:

Illmatic · 11-22-2008, 04:08 AM

Overrated fighter of the last 25 years: Marvin Hagler

Underrated fighter of the last 25 years: Naseem Hamed

Overrated fighter of all time: Jack Dempsey

Underrated fighter of all time: Jimmy McLarnin

Most exciting fighter under welter of the last 20 years: Naseem Hamed

Most exciting fighter over welter of the last 20 years: Mike Tyson

The second best cruiserweight of all time: De Leon/Qawi

Greatest heavyweight fighter pre-Louis: Jack Johnson

Greatest PR fighter of all time: Carlos Ortiz

Greatest Mexican fighter of time: Oscar De La Hoya- I refuse to say that a fighter of pure mexican heritage, who grew up in a city called Los Angeles, who is a dual citizen, whose first language is spanish, whose neighborhood is spanish speaking is less mexican than a fighter a few miles away who also makes their living in the United States.

McGrain · 11-22-2008, 07:18 AM

Nothing wrong with any of those picks - apart from the first one.

Jay · 11-22-2008, 08:49 AM

Overrated fighter of the last 25 years: Tyson

Underrated fighter of the last 25 years: Calzaghe (gotta say it

)

Overrated fighter of all time: Ali

Underrated fighter of all time: Pep

Most exciting fighter under welterweight of the last 20 years: Hamed

Most exciting fighter over welterweight of the last 20 years: Possibly Tyson.. Depending on what you like would accept RJJ.

The second best cruiserweight of all time: Holyfield - good enough for 1 & 2!!!

Greatest heavyweight fighter pre-Louis: John L

Greatest PR fighter of all time: dont know

Greatest Mexican fighter of time: dont know

teeto · 11-22-2008, 09:03 AM

Wouls any1 consider Juan Carlos Gomez as the secnd best cruiser? Or would it be more appropriate to go with some1 from Holyfield's era?

dan-b · 11-22-2008, 09:46 AM

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Originally Posted by teeto

Wouls any1 consider Juan Carlos Gomez as the secnd best cruiser? Or would it be more appropriate to go with some1 from Holyfield's era?

I think that's a fair shout. Gomez was a superbly skilled cruiser.

Pacdbest · 11-22-2008, 11:27 AM

Overrated fighter of the last 25 years:---hAMED

Underrated fighter of the last 25 years:- B-hop

Overrated fighter of all time:--Trinidad

Underrated fighter of all time:-- Hagler

Most exciting fighter under welterweight of the last 20 years: Pacquiao

Most exciting fighter over welterweight of the last 20 years:- Tyson

The second best cruiserweight of all time: Is Holyfield a CW? He is then.

Greatest heavyweight fighter pre-Louis: Ali

Greatest PR fighter of all time: Tito

Greatest Mexican fighter of time: Chavez

acb_ · 11-22-2008, 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Pacdbest

Greatest heavyweight fighter pre-Louis: Ali

Pre Joe Louis, not Lennox Lewis... just to clarify.

Jay · 11-22-2008, 11:56 AM

I also like his CW pick...

Who is number 1 then on your list pacd? I don't know much about CW but i thought it was almost undisputed that he's the best.

salsanchezfan · 11-22-2008, 01:27 PM

Overrated fighter of the last 25 years: In some ways, Mike Tyson

Underrated fighter of the last 25 years: Probably Mike McCallum

Overrated fighter of all time: Ray Robinson at 160

Underrated fighter of all time: Too many choices; maybe Manuel Ortiz?

Most exciting fighter under welterweight of the last 20 years: Gatti

Most exciting fighter over welterweight of the last 20 years: Nigel Benn

The second best cruiserweight of all time: Qawi

Greatest heavyweight fighter pre-Louis: Jack Johnson

Greatest PR fighter of all time: Carlos Ortiz

Greatest Mexican fighter of time: Chavez

Illmatic · 11-22-2008, 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by teeto

Wouls any1 consider Juan Carlos Gomez as the secnd best cruiser? Or would it be more appropriate to go with some1 from Holyfield's era?

I wouldnt bat an eye at that pick.

Illmatic · 11-22-2008, 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Pacdbest

Overrated fighter of the last 25 years:---hAMED

Underrated fighter of the last 25 years:- B-hop

Overrated fighter of all time:--Trinidad

Underrated fighter of all time:-- Hagler

Most exciting fighter under welterweight of the last 20 years: Pacquiao

Most exciting fighter over welterweight of the last 20 years:- Tyson

The second best cruiserweight of all time: Is Holyfield a CW? He is then.

Greatest heavyweight fighter pre-Louis: Ali

Greatest PR fighter of all time: Tito

Greatest Mexican fighter of time: Chavez

I said second best cruiser b/c Holyfield is consensus #1, or do u have another #1 cruiser? And funny you have tito as the most overrated yet greatest PR fighter. You must not know of any others.

Illmatic · 11-22-2008, 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by salsanchezfan

Underrated fighter of the last 25 years: Probably Mike McCallum

NICE!

196osh · 11-22-2008, 02:32 PM

A point I would make on McCallum. He is pretty much unversally thought of as underrated...

How can you be underrated if everybody thinks your under rated?

salsanchezfan · 11-22-2008, 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by 196osh

A point I would make on McCallum. He is pretty much unversally thought of as underrated...

How can you be underrated if everybody thinks your under rated?

Fine then; Antonio Esparragoza.

11-22-2008, 04:01 AM	#1 (permalink)
Illmatic Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Cleveland, Ohio Posts: 980	Name the most ______________ fighter... Overrated fighter of the last 25 years: Underrated fighter of the last 25 years: Overrated fighter of all time: Underrated fighter of all time: Most exciting fighter under welterweight of the last 20 years: Most exciting fighter over welterweight of the last 20 years: The second best cruiserweight of all time: Greatest heavyweight fighter pre-Louis: Greatest PR fighter of all time: Greatest Mexican fighter of time: __________________ "I'm scared every time I step into the ring, but sometimes you just have to bite down on your mouthpiece and say 'Let's Go.'"

11-22-2008, 04:08 AM	#2 (permalink)
Illmatic Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Cleveland, Ohio Posts: 980	Re: Name the most ______________ fighter... Overrated fighter of the last 25 years: Marvin Hagler Underrated fighter of the last 25 years: Naseem Hamed Overrated fighter of all time: Jack Dempsey Underrated fighter of all time: Jimmy McLarnin Most exciting fighter under welter of the last 20 years: Naseem Hamed Most exciting fighter over welter of the last 20 years: Mike Tyson The second best cruiserweight of all time: De Leon/Qawi Greatest heavyweight fighter pre-Louis: Jack Johnson Greatest PR fighter of all time: Carlos Ortiz Greatest Mexican fighter of time: Oscar De La Hoya- I refuse to say that a fighter of pure mexican heritage, who grew up in a city called Los Angeles, who is a dual citizen, whose first language is spanish, whose neighborhood is spanish speaking is less mexican than a fighter a few miles away who also makes their living in the United States. __________________ "I'm scared every time I step into the ring, but sometimes you just have to bite down on your mouthpiece and say 'Let's Go.'"

11-22-2008, 07:18 AM	#3 (permalink)
McGrain Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Burley was ducked by Zivic, Armstrong, Cochrane, Robinson, LaMotta, Cerdan. Posts: 868	Re: Name the most ______________ fighter... Nothing wrong with any of those picks - apart from the first one.

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teeto Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 289	Re: Name the most ______________ fighter... Wouls any1 consider Juan Carlos Gomez as the secnd best cruiser? Or would it be more appropriate to go with some1 from Holyfield's era?

11-22-2008, 11:27 AM	#7 (permalink)
Pacdbest Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 325	Re: Name the most ______________ fighter... Overrated fighter of the last 25 years:---hAMED Underrated fighter of the last 25 years:- B-hop Overrated fighter of all time:--Trinidad Underrated fighter of all time:-- Hagler Most exciting fighter under welterweight of the last 20 years: Pacquiao Most exciting fighter over welterweight of the last 20 years:- Tyson The second best cruiserweight of all time: Is Holyfield a CW? He is then. Greatest heavyweight fighter pre-Louis: Ali Greatest PR fighter of all time: Tito Greatest Mexican fighter of time: Chavez

11-22-2008, 01:27 PM	#10 (permalink)
salsanchezfan Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 191	Re: Name the most ______________ fighter... Overrated fighter of the last 25 years: In some ways, Mike Tyson Underrated fighter of the last 25 years: Probably Mike McCallum Overrated fighter of all time: Ray Robinson at 160 Underrated fighter of all time: Too many choices; maybe Manuel Ortiz? Most exciting fighter under welterweight of the last 20 years: Gatti Most exciting fighter over welterweight of the last 20 years: Nigel Benn The second best cruiserweight of all time: Qawi Greatest heavyweight fighter pre-Louis: Jack Johnson Greatest PR fighter of all time: Carlos Ortiz Greatest Mexican fighter of time: Chavez

11-22-2008, 02:32 PM	#14 (permalink)
196osh Roy Jones Jr Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 119	Re: Name the most ______________ fighter... A point I would make on McCallum. He is pretty much unversally thought of as underrated... How can you be underrated if everybody thinks your under rated?

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