Mosley vs Margo may happen

[smoochp]

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Guess he saw us talking shit about him

[acb_]

So much for the criticism.

[smoochp]

Originally Posted by acb_

So much for the criticism.

I'm just glad its happening

[acb_]

It was always going to happen, or another equally good match IMO. He has fought the very best in his division and thats his track record. Anyone with that track record shouldn't be ripped for negotiations.

[smoochp]

It has been confirmed that the fight will happen. I believe Margo will win, but of course I want Shane to win. So I can see a Mosley vs Cotto rematch. Then a Mega Fight with Floyd hopefully. With his record he deserves it. Too bad his tooth was loose, lol.

[Benny Blanco]

Originally Posted by smoochp

It has been confirmed that the fight will happen. I believe Margo will win, but of course I want Shane to win. So I can see a Mosley vs Cotto rematch. Then a Mega Fight with Floyd hopefully. With his record he deserves it. Too bad his tooth was loose, lol.

You actually want to see a Mosley/Cotto rematch?.....IMO Cotto clearly showed who was the better fighter between the two of them and the fight was good but not exciting in my view.

[boxingbull]

Its good he reconsidered for the simple fact that turning down fights with Clottey and Williams would have left Marg with limited options before the Cotto fight.

[sues2nd]

Originally Posted by acb_

It was always going to happen, or another equally good match IMO. He has fought the very best in his division and thats his track record. Anyone with that track record shouldn't be ripped for negotiations.

Not even for his handling of a possible rematch with Williams? Im sorry, but THAT should be ripped.

Williams wanted the fight, they were offering DOUBLE the money than Mosely, he had lost to him...so there was some history (read: easy sell to the masses), unification, etc....it all made sense...yet for some reason or another, Margo declined...?

Im of the camp that feels Williams beats him 9 times out of 10...on styles and effectiveness of the styles...but the fight made more sense than ANY other one out there...yet as I said, Tony had no interest in it.

Again, THAT should be ripped.

[dave82]

Originally Posted by sues2nd

Not even for his handling of a possible rematch with Williams? Im sorry, but THAT should be ripped.

Williams wanted the fight, they were offering DOUBLE the money than Mosely, he had lost to him...so there was some history (read: easy sell to the masses), unification, etc....it all made sense...yet for some reason or another, Margo declined...?

Im of the camp that feels Williams beats him 9 times out of 10...on styles and effectiveness of the styles...but the fight made more sense than ANY other one out there...yet as I said, Tony had no interest in it.

Again, THAT should be ripped.

Thats exactly right, being a fighter who talks of pride you would think he might want to settle the score?!

[acb_]

Originally Posted by sues2nd

Not even for his handling of a possible rematch with Williams? Im sorry, but THAT should be ripped.

Williams wanted the fight, they were offering DOUBLE the money than Mosely, he had lost to him...so there was some history (read: easy sell to the masses), unification, etc....it all made sense...yet for some reason or another, Margo declined...?

Im of the camp that feels Williams beats him 9 times out of 10...on styles and effectiveness of the styles...but the fight made more sense than ANY other one out there...yet as I said, Tony had no interest in it.

Again, THAT should be ripped.

He has fought Williams once more than any of the other top players in the division. And, his opposition at 147lbs is top notch all the way.

[smoochp]

Originally Posted by Benny Blanco

You actually want to see a Mosley/Cotto rematch?.....IMO Cotto clearly showed who was the better fighter between the two of them and the fight was good but not exciting in my view.

Shane always does better in a rematch. I just would like to see it again. I think a few more adjustments and he could be Cotto

[sues2nd]

Originally Posted by acb_

He has fought Williams once more than any of the other top players in the division. And, his opposition at 147lbs is top notch all the way.

Yeah, he fought him and lost. After he got a share of the title again, Williams offered a rematch at 4m. So, a chance to unify, a chance to avenge a loss, a chance to remove any doubt who is tops at 147...and he completely blows it off and goes for Mosely (a much easier fight for exactly HALF of the money he would have made vs Paul).

I agree that he has fought top comp at WW. I agree that he has even tried to get bigger fights...and when those fights didnt come off...he called them out as "ducking him". Exactly what he is doing to Williams now.

Again, I dont dispute your point about his competition...but I do dispute that he shouldnt be ripped for how he has handled himself in regards to a Williams rematch...the fight that makes BY FAR the most sense at WW.

[acb_]

Originally Posted by sues2nd

Yeah, he fought him and lost. After he got a share of the title again, Williams offered a rematch at 4m. So, a chance to unify, a chance to avenge a loss, a chance to remove any doubt who is tops at 147...and he completely blows it off and goes for Mosely (a much easier fight for exactly HALF of the money he would have made vs Paul).

I agree that he has fought top comp at WW. I agree that he has even tried to get bigger fights...and when those fights didnt come off...he called them out as "ducking him". Exactly what he is doing to Williams now.

Again, I dont dispute your point about his competition...but I do dispute that he shouldnt be ripped for how he has handled himself in regards to a Williams rematch...the fight that makes BY FAR the most sense at WW.

I don't disagree that he is ducking him. But he is ducking him for good reason, Williams beats him again and he loses his top spot before cashing out. This would bother me if he wasn't going to take top competition, but... Meanwhile, he can make more $ against Cotto in a rematch and probably win. Thats still a great fight. In the meantime he takes Mosley. That makes his last 8 or so fights Mosley, Williams, Cotto (2), Cintron (2), etc. There isn't anyone in boxing taking on better comp is there?

[Brooklyn1550]

Margarito will beat Mosley handily, mark my words.

On a side note, I watched Cintron-Margarito II the other day. Cintron's no elite level fighter, but Margarito is a better infighter than given credit for. People have said he can only fight at mid-range, but that's clearly not the case. He has a nice way of throwing short, compact punches on the inside, threw every punch in the book, and worked from different angles. He's a whirlwind and just doesn't stop throwing. It's amazing to think a guy can fight like that and not get tired. And of course, the chin. Cintron landed huge uppercuts and some flush right hands with full extension and Margarito walked right through them and smiled. That's not normal.

[sues2nd]

Originally Posted by acb_

I don't disagree that he is ducking him. But he is ducking him for good reason, Williams beats him again and he loses his top spot before cashing out. This would bother me if he wasn't going to take top competition, but... Meanwhile, he can make more $ against Cotto in a rematch and probably win. Thats still a great fight. In the meantime he takes Mosley. That makes his last 8 or so fights Mosley, Cotto (2), Cintron (2), etc. There isn't anyone in boxing taking on better comp is there?

I didnt say it isnt a good reason. I just said that he SHOULD be ripped for doing so. Remember, he was the one ripping Floyd for not fighting him...he is the first one to talk about pride and fighting the best there is out there...first one to talk about being ducked. Quite hypocritical now that the shoe is on the other foot.

Remember, I think Williams beats him just about everytime (only reason I dont think EVERYTIME is because anything can happen in boxing)...so I understand his logic. I just dont respect it.

As for his last 8 or so...there are a bunch of fighters Id say have fought better comp in his last 8. Remember, in between those big names, he has fought Golden Johnson, Gomez, Lujan...along with the fact that I dont hold Cintron in THAT high a regard. I agree his resume in that time has been great...but....

Pacman, Hopkins, Mosely, Taylor (whose last 8 are Lacy, Pavlik, Pavlik, Spinks, Ouma, Wright, Hopkins and Hopkins...WOW...say what you want about him...that is 8 TOUGH fights...), Oscar, etc all have a better last 8 IMO...and thats just off the top of my head. Hell even Tarver is on par with him...Dawson, Woods, Santiago (on par to Gomez), Muriqi (on par to Johnson), Hopkins, Jones, Glen Johnson x2...etc. can be argued as equal or close to.

So as I give him immense respect for the comp he has fought (please dont take what I said above as a slight...only showing its not phenominal when looking at alot of the others out there.)...but I just think, with his past comments, past actions, past attitude toward being ducked...that to say he is above being ripped is going a bit far.