Berto vs Collazo close to happening in Jan on HBO

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[jecxbox]

Good fight for Berto.

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Originally Posted by jecxbox

Good fight for Berto.

I bet people at the other site are talking shit. They always said Berto was scared of Collazo and he will get knockout. We will see

[Brooklyn1550]

Berto will win. It's a nice step up and I don't think there's all that much risk involved. Am I selling Collazo short?

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Originally Posted by brooklyn1550

Berto will win. It's a nice step up and I don't think there's all that much risk involved. Am I selling Collazo short?

He lost a close fight with 147lb Hatton and got dominated by Mosely Good question BK

[Samurai]

Originally Posted by brooklyn1550

Berto will win. It's a nice step up and I don't think there's all that much risk involved. Am I selling Collazo short?

No, Collazo is a good boxer but doesn't pose any threat whatsoever IMO. Berto's speed and combination punching will be too much.

[sues2nd]

Originally Posted by brooklyn1550

Berto will win. It's a nice step up and I don't think there's all that much risk involved. Am I selling Collazo short?

Nope...Collazo is a good boxer, fairly awkward with a nice chin...but vs Mosely he struggled mightily vs his speed...and Berto, at this stage of Shane's career, is faster. He is also stronger, attacks from NUMEROUS angles (IMO his biggest strength) and has shown far improved defense over his past 2 fights.

The one knock on Berto seems to be how his chin is going to hold up. I for one feel people are selling him far short on this, as he has only been down or even hurt really once in his career, and that was vs Cosme Rivera, who may not be the biggest puncher, but isnt exactly feather fisted (22 KOs in 31 wins...). Plus, Collazo himself will never be confused for Julian Jackson either.

I expect Berto to control it from the outset...with Collazo stealing a couple rounds here and there. Berto wide UD...10-2 or 9-3. Cant see it being much closer than that, as Collazo really doesnt have the power, or movement to keep Andre off of him.

[MSTR]

Originally Posted by sues2nd

Nope...Collazo is a good boxer, fairly awkward with a nice chin...but vs Mosely he struggled mightily vs his speed...and Berto, at this stage of Shane's career, is faster. He is also stronger, attacks from NUMEROUS angles (IMO his biggest strength) and has shown far improved defense over his past 2 fights.

The one knock on Berto seems to be how his chin is going to hold up. I for one feel people are selling him far short on this, as he has only been down or even hurt really once in his career, and that was vs Cosme Rivera, who may not be the biggest puncher, but isnt exactly feather fisted (22 KOs in 31 wins...). Plus, Collazo himself will never be confused for Julian Jackson either.

I expect Berto to control it from the outset...with Collazo stealing a couple rounds here and there. Berto wide UD...10-2 or 9-3. Cant see it being much closer than that, as Collazo really doesnt have the power, or movement to keep Andre off of him.

I think Berto has a very solid chin. That uppercut caught him totally cold, he never saw it coming. Can happen to anyone. He has never been hurt or stunned otherwise, or shown anything that would make you think he had a bad chin.

Agree with your overall assesment of the fight. Will be a cracker for sure, can't wait. I'm a big Berto fan, i think he has gone under the radar with a lot of boxing fans. Mind you, 147 is a very tough division to break into for a prospect. Lots of challenges out there at the moment.

[Benny Blanco]

I hope Berto severely hurts Collazo to the point that Collazo decides to retire.

[Illmatic]

Originally Posted by Benny Blanco

I hope Berto severely hurts Collazo to the point that Collazo decides to retire.

DAMN! Why the beef with Collazo?

[Benny Blanco]

Originally Posted by Illmatic

DAMN! Why the beef with Collazo?

Well he thinks he's a better fighter then what he actually is and to top it off I believe during the buildup to the Trinidad/Winky fight he said that he never liked Tito as a fighter, and when Cotto moved up to 147 he actually logged on to the Cotto forum and claimed that Cotto was ducking him and that he would send him back down to 140 like he did Hatton.

[Igor]

A half year ago I was picking Collazo in this matchup, but now after watching both of them more I'm going with Berto by decision in a fight a lot more competitive than Berto-Forbes. Collazo's style will create problems for Berto IMO.. the only question here is what kind of shape he'll be in. If he's 100%, I think it'll be a very competitive fight and I wouldn't be shocked to see him beat Berto. I also think Collazo will be able to stun him and Berto will show a lot more respect for him than any opponents in the past. It's a very interesting matchup and a great test/learning fight for Berto.

[Illmatic]

Originally Posted by Benny Blanco

Well he thinks he's a better fighter then what he actually is and to top it off I believe during the buildup to the Trinidad/Winky fight he said that he never liked Tito as a fighter, and when Cotto moved up to 147 he actually logged on to the Cotto forum and claimed that Cotto was ducking him and that he would send him back down to 140 like he did Hatton.

hmmm...interesante

[Samurai]

Originally Posted by MSTR

He has never been hurt or stunned otherwise

Estrada stunned him in their fight.

[Igor]

Originally Posted by Samurai

Estrada stunned him in their fight.

And the nervous way he reacts to punches/pressure in general should be a big sign that he most likely has chin problems. He has a panicky type of personality.. not nearly as bad as someone like Dirrell, but it's still an issue and having a very leaky defense doesn't help.