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Old 12-04-2008, 11:39 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Default Question to Alexander Povetkin fans.

My question to the Povetkin fans here is how would he be able to break through Wlad jab and avoid his right hand and be able to hit Wlad effectively, because in this day and age against todays heavyweights Wlad is becoming close to unhittable and he seems to never lose rounds, and I don't think Alex has that punch to end things against Wlad which is what he would have to do to beat Wlad who again never hardly loses a round. So please try to persuade me because I am interested in thoughts and analysis regarding this future bout.
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Old 12-05-2008, 12:15 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Default Re: Question to Alexander Povetkin fans.

Povetkin would achieve his goal not through landing a whole lot, landing the bombs per say and slipping the jab via head movement Tyson-like. That's not Povetkin.

However, for the most part he has a good high guard and can bully his way in. Where he will achieve success is getting in close to smother Wlad after a few rounds and unleashing that godly workrate, even though not much of it will be clean and Wlad will be do a lot of clinching. Wlad's stamina is what can be penetrated the easiest and Povetkin sometimes throws 120 punches a round, which is crazy for a HW and he sustains it in round 12 like he does round 1. The bonus for Povetkin is that he does have good accuracy and throws every punch with precise power, they aren't just pitty patter workrate, he's throwing hard shots.

So, Wlad's not unhittable, even Thompson troubled him with workrate a little and got some punches in, you can attribute that to the size of Thompson, or the style, probably both. But imagine Povetkin with a greater degree of technical ability, speed of movement and hands and of course workrate and I think you'll find that Povetkin is a tough fight for Wlad.
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Old 12-05-2008, 12:18 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Default Re: Question to Alexander Povetkin fans.

Well I can touch on a few things for you. First off, this is close to a 50-50 fight imo, but I will obviously be pulling for my boy Povetkin. Anyways though Wlad is a mentally weak fighter as I see it. If the heavyweight scene was better this would show itself. For example, when Sultan was against the ropes and Wlad could have taken him out any time he wanted, all Sultan did to stay alive was throw or feint a looping left hand and Wlad would back off immediately. Did he really need to be that cautious? No of course he didn't, he is protecting that chin of his but also showing to me that he's lacking in mental toughness (at least a bit). Now take a guy like Povetkin, who NEVER stops throwing punches, and is imo the toughest - or one of the toughest - mental fighters on the planet, and you have someone that can take Wlads best shot and still keep throwing punches. This will get to Wlad midway through the fight and he will realize "oh shit, this guy is taking my shots and still throwing more punches than I am". Plus if Wlad clinches (which we can fully expect) Povetkin still isn't going to run out of steam. I really think he's one of those guys that is old school and could go 15 rounds no problem.

I do believe Povetkin could get dropped in this fight from a flush straight right in the early rounds, but I also expect him to get back up and keep fighting. Wlad just doesn't have the killer instinct, so if Povetkin is in trouble I expect him to make it out of the round.

As far as getting past Wlads jab - yes that will be a big problem. If Povetkin had head movement this would be more of a 70/30 fight for Povetkin imo, but with his lack of head movement he is bound to get tagged with at least a few. But back to my previous point - I think Povetkin will have Wlad backing up at times in this fight, and coming out of clinches and backing up Wlad is when he is going to do the most damage. The damage will accumulate and Wlad will crack late in the fight when Povetkin is still throwing 70 punches per round. Just my .2 cents!

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Old 12-05-2008, 02:39 AM   #4 (permalink)
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Default Re: Question to Alexander Povetkin fans.

Wlad will play jab and clinch all day long though. Povetkin really needs to be in a position to be able to use the work rate, which considering his stature will be extremely hard.

If he decides to start opening up more on the way in, he will leave himself very vunerable to anything Wlad throws. I think you guys are under estimating how much Wlad will be able to control the pace with that jab.

I see it going the way of Wlad frustrating Povetkin, and Povetkin getting wreckless and walking in to something big and getting laid out, or getting hurt too often walking in throwing from range and leaving himself open.

Still, a very good fight in the heavy division, one of the only ones that actually matters, apart from Haye v Vitali perhaps.
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Old 12-05-2008, 04:33 AM   #5 (permalink)
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Wlad will play jab and clinch all day long though. Povetkin really needs to be in a position to be able to use the work rate, which considering his stature will be extremely hard.

If he decides to start opening up more on the way in, he will leave himself very vunerable to anything Wlad throws. I think you guys are under estimating how much Wlad will be able to control the pace with that jab.

I see it going the way of Wlad frustrating Povetkin, and Povetkin getting wreckless and walking in to something big and getting laid out, or getting hurt too often walking in throwing from range and leaving himself open.

Still, a very good fight in the heavy division, one of the only ones that actually matters, apart from Haye v Vitali perhaps.
This would be the other 50% prediction when I said I thought it was a 50/50 fight. A lot of people will disagree with me im sure, but I think this fight ends in a ko one way or another. If Povetkin is behind on the cards he's not the type to just lose the decision - he will force something to happen which could result in him taking a massive right hand or 2 (or more). And if he's ahead on the cards I just think that means he is successfully breaking down Wlad, backing him up, and will eventually crack his chin. So one way or another I see a knockout. As my avatar shows; im going with my boy Povetkin. At the end of the day ill take the mentally tough fighter in this styles mismatch. Plus Povetkins chin can't really be questioned right now, which is a huge plus
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