Something I noticed..

[Samurai]

All (or most) the best posters were predicting Cotto to beat Margarito very convincingly by stoppage or wide UD, yet a lot of the average fans picked Margarito.

Did anyone notice this? Doesn't really mean anything, I was just looking through threads on various sites and noticed this.

[dan-b]

That is an interesting point but lets not forget that for a long while it looked like Cotto might win. With the right adjustments he could realistically win a rematch. Whether he will or not is another matter though.

[Sir Amsterdam]

Originally Posted by Samurai

All (or most) the best posters were predicting Cotto to beat Margarito very convincingly by stoppage or wide UD, yet a lot of the average fans picked Margarito.

Did anyone notice this? Doesn't really mean anything, I was just looking through threads on various sites and noticed this.

We look deep into stuff, the average fan just noticed chin, durability and size and that ended up being the deciding factor in the fight.

Then they paraded around as it was the first one they got right in a while.

[Samurai]

Originally Posted by dan-b

That is an interesting point but lets not forget that for a long while it looked like Cotto might win. With the right adjustments he could realistically win a rematch. Whether he will or not is another matter though.

I agree

[jecxbox]

Basically they just looked at Margarito's chin and punch out put and let that be the determining factor in the fight regardless of how bad it would have been for Margarito if he wouldn't have hurt Cotto...I mean Cotto with even the slightest of a tougher chin would have obliterated Marg. We all knew that the question mark would be Cotto's durability in that fight...Miguel Cotto did what we expected him for a little more than half of the fight, he just couldn't finish on his feet. Good job for margo though because his intangibles got him through that fight because Cotto was kicking his ass.

[Peter5]

It was hard not to notice! It was constanly rubbed in your/our faces! It means shit though, Cotto was superb through 6rds, had a terrible 7th and the tide was turned to Margo's favour, fair play to him. But like Dan-b said, with the right adjustments he can take the rematch, hopefully it happens, Im sure Cotto wants to redeem himself so I see no reason why it would not happen, plus Margo gets a good payday, and us the fans get to see it all again!! I for one am looking forward to it

[CJLightweight]

actually the best posters predicted right as cotto was winning up to the point he got hurt really bad..and resort to fighting backwards more often. Chin is a huge factor and i think what the best posters overlook at was margo's chin. Cotto was doing the right thing imo, everyone knows cotto also has power and prior to the fight i can assume that most probably thought that cotto and margarito are in the same level in terms of punching power or margarito edging a bit more.

The gameplan was right, margo was getting hit a lot right in the head and i can again assume that most probably thought that sooner or later cotto would break him down with the accumulated punches.

[cardstars]

Originally Posted by CJLightweight

Chin is a huge factor and i think what the best posters overlook at was margo's chin.

Yep. I figured Margo might get stopped on cuts if anything

[MSTR]

Originally Posted by Sir Amsterdam

We look deep into stuff, the average fan just noticed chin, durability and size and that ended up being the deciding factor in the fight.

Then they paraded around as it was the first one they got right in a while.

Too right. I actually read your thread after the fight, and to be fair you came out straight after the fight (as you have done in the past) and admitted to being wrong no question.

Some of the responses were totally uncalled for. You were gracious in defeat (for lack of a better word), would have been nice to see it reciprocated from those who picked Margarito.

[jecxbox]

We all knew how this fight was going to go anyways, It was to be an absolute schooling for as long as Cotto could stay fresh and clean. He couldn't and he got pwned. Cotto basically fought with a very extreme and inefficient game plan. It was a game plan that absolutely worked, but he wasn't beastly enough to carry that game plan out!

[brooklyn1550]

Originally Posted by jecxbox

We all knew how this fight was going to go anyways, It was to be an absolute schooling for as long as Cotto could stay fresh and clean. He couldn't and he got pwned. Cotto basically fought with a very extreme and inefficient game plan. It was a game plan that absolutely worked, but he wasn't beastly enough to carry that game plan out!

If only he had an iron chin, huh? Then he would have been more comfortable planting his feet, making Margarito fight backing up. We would have seen how Margarito dealt with the Cotto body attack.

[jecxbox]

Originally Posted by brooklyn1550

If only he had an iron chin, huh? Then he would have been more comfortable planting his feet, making Margarito fight backing up. We would have seen how Margarito dealt with the Cotto body attack.

If only he had a chin and never had weight issues at 140lbs. He would have been undefeated at that weight, steam rolled over any of the present day opposition under those circumstances. Seriously Cotto with an Iron chin and no weight problems at 140lbs would have mowed down 140lbs and ruled it with a Joe Calzaghe type Reign...But hey thats the beauty of this sport, boxers don't got it all and it makes it just as good to see how far fighters can go with their deficiencies.

[brooklyn1550]

Originally Posted by jecxbox

If only he had a chin and never had weight issues at 140lbs. He would have been undefeated at that weight, steam rolled over any of the present day opposition under those circumstances. Seriously Cotto with an Iron chin and no weight problems at 140lbs would have mowed down 140lbs and ruled it with a Joe Calzaghe type Reign...But hey thats the beauty of this sport, boxers don't got it all and it makes it just as good to see how far fighters can go with their deficiencies.

And I'm really pleased with how far he's gotten and how much further he could go. I've been a fan of Cotto since I saw him in the Olympics, but I was worried for a little bit when he was getting rocked by Corley and Torres that he wouldn't be able to fare well at welterweight.

[MSTR]

Cotto will come back from this a better fighter IMO.

[Samurai]

Even though I was shocked he lost, I don't think it's unrealistic that he could win the rematch.

Think about it, it still went eleven rounds even with Cotto making little mistakes such as sitting along the ropes and letting Margarito fire away some uppercuts.